2020 Native Habitat improvement thread!

Discussion in 'Native Habitat Management' started by OkieKubota, Jan 1, 2020.

  1. Triple C

    Triple C Well-Known Member

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    Mostly sweet gum and winged elm but didn’t limit to those. Treated various oaks and hickories to release better trees.
     
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    This. I've been trying to get a road built since August. Can't get a dump truck in there and will probably need to use an excavator because its so soft.

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  5. OkieKubota

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    If there’s anything I can do let me know. I had to stop my pond build and bring my dozer up to the high country where our house is. I could doze in the woods here but the dozer does so much so fast I don’t really want to do something I can’t undo before I have it thought out...lol
     
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    Death to sweet gums and winged elms. The liberals of the plant world. Worthless and suck the life out of everything good.
     
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    No sweet gum but plenty of winged elm. I always called it piss elm because i didn't know the proper name. Have huge taproots also.

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    1/2 acre opening turning into something productive. Maybe another plot why not.

    & trying to find a willing logging company to clean up our woods from bad storms we got this last July. Literally leveled sections of the woods. Good majority was old red and white oak :(.


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    Man, that is a mess! Make a good plot if you could get it cleaned up
     
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    It's difficult to get logging companies interested in storm downed trees. It's a lot of extra work for them to clean it up, and some of the trees are damaged, plus the wood quality goes downhill fast.
     
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    Amen to that. It's what I've been dealing with trying to get someone willing but I cannot do it alone Some of the trees are just massive. Only thing I got going is that majority is large old straight oak trees. At this point the value is just getting them out the way.

    At least mother nature spared my stand. Couldn't hunt out of it this year as it is 30 min walk through downed trees and all shooting lanes are blocked.

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    Maybe just get a dozer to pile them up??
     
  13. OkieKubota

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    Get a big excavator with a thumb or as I like to call them, track hoe, in there and cut the roots ball and tops out and start stacking the logs then sell the logs. Use the excavator to pull the stumps and put everything into burn piles or dig large holes and bury the stumps. I have a dozer but I think in your instance a track hoe would be better to save the lumber. Once a big enough dozer gets in there and pushes around on that stuff the lumber is junk unless you cut tops and roots off and just use the dozer as a skidded...I do this some but I have burnt a lot of nice trees in a dozer pile...
     
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    I'm hoping it doesn't come to that....really hoping to find logger willing to take it on. Have few fish on the line, all of them want to wait until snow clears to get better assessment. Hope for the best, if not i'm going to have some wicked bedding the next 10-15 years ha
     
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    Leave that fallen mess and make it a sanctuary. I’ve got a 10 acre section looked just like that. Deer, especially bucks love it. I’ve had best luck hunting outside downwind edges of the mess. And you be surprised how in 10 years it self eradicates itself. Mine is no longer the jungle it once was. This was how pre colonial forests repurposed it’s self as new growth occurred amongst the rotting timber. Old forests were nearly impenetrable thickets, we have just changed our way of treatment of mature timber destroying its ability for diversity. Glad your stand was spared, that was close.
     
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    Okie - We've got a new piece of equipment coming today that I can't wait to see in action - Extreme Mower from www.quickattach.com. Looks to be a beast of a brush mower on steroids. Has carbide teeth on bottom of blade carriage for shredding material to ground level. We've used a Bushmaster mower since 2012 that's still going strong but wanted something more aggressive to take out larger material. I'll post up pics and a review after we put it to work.
     
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    I sprayed around all of my oriental arborvitae plantings from last year and the new ones i just put in. I needed a property screen and while cedars will grow they are not offered by the state. I did not water these once last year. Heavy bayou gumbo clay down to 4' with minimal topsoil.

    Out of the 100 i probably lost 15 some of which were death by zero turn. Something has been digging around them, hoping it's not pigs. Other than that no animals including deer have bothered them. You can see the difference in the third row versus the first two. I should have a nice screen in another 3-4 years. I love pines but I want long term cover. We have deer in the future front yard but that will change as more and more houses get built.

    Also pictured is my home built spray rig. I was going to backpack these but its much faster with a rig and i get a really heavy droplet. Forecast said 0 wind and of course by the time i load up its gusting Oklahlma style. I use the barn metal weed shield to get close to the trees. Hardwoods I just spray the tube/trunks if they are big enough.[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]

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    Been working on bedding areas and micro plots since the season closed in January. Next project will be planting Norway Spruce and Sandbar Willow along some of my access paths for screening as well some ROD cuttings I was able to acquire.

    The first pic is a before shot of one of the bedding locations. 2nd, 3rd, and 4th are current bedding setups. 5th and 6th are food plots in progress and last is my new tool for planting the Spruce seedlings in a few weeks.
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