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Elk, in my experience where we are all the food in the world will not stop them from bedding in deep thermal cover / south facing slopes. My corn and brassica is the only standing ag in the entire town and i cannot stop the deer from moving across the street to bed on the south facing slope. Our...

In my experience the alfalfa won’t let the new alfalfa grow . I usually top seed grain into the patches Sent from my iPhone using Deer Hunter Forum

bedding areas look great, if you have time take the stump sprouts and tuck them under your hinge cuts, put them at eye height so deer can browse and scrape under them.

Buckwheat sorghum and sun hemp is what we use , this is what it looks like in November . Seeded this strip a bit too heavy, hence the yellow Sent from my iPhone using Deer Hunter Forum

One thing we’ve started doing is planting a buckwheat sorghum cover crop and then carving out our plots in them for cover . Being in NY I completely agree with you on size of plot & huntability. Here is one we just did with LC brassica into cover crop Sent from my iPhone using Deer Hunter...

hey elk can you show us some updated pictures of your hinge cut bedding area?

You'd be hard to get John to advise planting only two forages in any one mix. With so many different factors that mother nature throws there way John likes to blend mixes together that will both compliment eachother and improve the likelihood of plot success. You know better than anyone else...

My favorite mix of his is Fall Draw, its Winfred rutabaga with a heavy portion of annual clovers. I saw a lot of buck activity for some reason in his fall draw plots from august on...

I find on all three properties we plant food plots on the mixes that have included Winfred brassica and rutabaga have outdrawn all of the other forages planted on our property from july to today...

Good input . What do you plant in your staging areas ?? Sent from my iPhone using Deer Hunter Forum

I think the big problem we all get into is as we began the land management process food plots created the biggest noticeable impact on our properties. Then you couple in the lack of ag in our areas and the food plots was the greatest centralization of deer sign weve ever seen in our NY deer...

farm hunter i am in the catskills, I would like to know what you and the other guys feel about the food vs cover ratio on our properties. my concern with adding more and more and more food and taking away potential areas that can be let go to promote early seccesional habitat is creating an...

Im in the catskills, i usually plant my brassica around the third week in july if i can. I have had pretty good results. Everyone tells me beginning of August, so this year im going to try the beginning of august. I guess well see what happens.

Elk - what you are accomplishing is unbelievable. You have a lot to be proud of. As someone from the area that Elk is managing, deer like this are once in a lifetime for most...

I am planting Ed Spins Cover and Forbs mix , deerattraction.com sells it. It has cover and a mixture of legumes mixed in for browse. You plant with sorghum and buckwheat year one

Chainsaw Did you try any crimson clovers?

We have made multiple habitat trails recently on our property in Upstate, NY. These habitat trails cut threw bedding areas on mountain sides. Some areas the soil quality is better than others. Soil PH is below 5. We have spent so much time in the past worrying about what forage to plant in our...

http://news.psu.edu/story/186685/2001/12/17/penn-state-study-shows-bears-are-major-predators-fawns These animals have been getting a free pass and are starting to stake their claim in the catskills. Time to start shooting

2017 plan Property A: no ag area. Three plots. 2 1.5 acre plots (one hay, I like to leave this plot in hay for the farmer. I do a few strips of lc grain late for a little draw but I don't really want this plot to be a destination, it's more of a stop over on the way from bedding to the big...

Good info here elk thanks. Would you plant the soybean corn mix again. I plan on trying a rr soybean corn sugar beet this year in my big plot Sent from my iPhone using Deer Hunter Forum