Corn Plots Without Fertilizer for Bedding?

Wolf Bayou

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Does anyone have experience with planting corn without fertilizer? I realize it likely would not make much corn but do you think it would stand at least 5-6 foot tall and make some decent bedding? It is rich MS delta soil. I've got a 20 acre field I want to plant in something for bedding and corn seems like a good option but the high cost of fertilizer to make a high yield crop is not in my budget.
 
It might do alright for one year. I don’t think it would hurt to experiment. The big question however is what are your long term plans for this field. You might get away with it once but, year after year won’t work without amendments. If you plan to use this area as a bedding area in the future your going to need something different long term.
 
Corn is hard on a soil....so the comment about your future plans for the area are warranted in my opinion. If you are simply looking for tall annual bedding cover.....I would look into the products specifically for that purpose (WI conceal comes to mind) or for game birds. These products often times contain a mix of tall and short sorghum, millet, EW, sun hemp and tall variety sunflowers. I think a mix like this may be cheaper on your wallet, easier to plant and actually provide the cover that your looking for better. I have never used these products before.....but I feel it may be worth looking into as an alternative.

Corn - even if not wanting grain, hates competition (if you let the weeds do their thing to enhance the cover you will get 3 feet tall corn plants that are very weak (otherwise your planting RR seed and spraying). You will probably still have to use an actual planter for the best results density wise, and if for some reason you get too much or too little rain....then your really screwed. And if you have turkeys....I see it all the time where they will walk the rows of a field right when the plant starts to pop and they pluck as many as they can from the rows.....which means they could wipe out a small area fairly quickly if you have a lot of birds.
 
Corn is hard on a soil....so the comment about your future plans for the area are warranted in my opinion. If you are simply looking for tall annual bedding cover.....I would look into the products specifically for that purpose (WI conceal comes to mind) or for game birds. These products often times contain a mix of tall and short sorghum, millet, EW, sun hemp and tall variety sunflowers. I think a mix like this may be cheaper on your wallet, easier to plant and actually provide the cover that your looking for better. I have never used these products before.....but I feel it may be worth looking into as an alternative.

Corn - even if not wanting grain, hates competition (if you let the weeds do their thing to enhance the cover you will get 3 feet tall corn plants that are very weak (otherwise your planting RR seed and spraying). You will probably still have to use an actual planter for the best results density wise, and if for some reason you get too much or too little rain....then your really screwed. And if you have turkeys....I see it all the time where they will walk the rows of a field right when the plant starts to pop and they pluck as many as they can from the rows.....which means they could wipe out a small area fairly quickly if you have a lot of birds.
That's a great post J-bird and a lot of info I was not aware of. Although we don't have much corn in my area. I'm guessing you do.
 
Does anyone have experience with planting corn without fertilizer? I realize it likely would not make much corn but do you think it would stand at least 5-6 foot tall and make some decent bedding? It is rich MS delta soil. I've got a 20 acre field I want to plant in something for bedding and corn seems like a good option but the high cost of fertilizer to make a high yield crop is not in my budget.

I'd study some of @Baker plot mixes or his youtube.
 
That's a great post J-bird and a lot of info I was not aware of. Although we don't have much corn in my area. I'm guessing you do.


If you have hogs, they might root the corn up and eat it the very day you plant it. I planted a few rows once just for the screening and maybe some actual ears for a bonus, the first night hogs ate every bit of it.
 
Thanks, all good points. My long term plan for the field is to convert about half to oaks and leave the other half to plant corn and beans properly. I just need to get some cover on it in the meantime. Hogs are a concern although there is a lot of corn planted in the area already and I have not heard of a lot of issues. I like the idea of some alternative annuals like Egyptian wheat, sorghum sudan, sunflowers, and blends but the seed cost is more per acre than corn (we can get RR corn here for $25 a bag.) and don't they have high nitrogen requirements also? Any chance some of those might produce good standing height in the winter without a lot of fertilize cost?

Sunn Hemp does great on poor soil with minimal fertilizer in alabama but they don't allow us to plant it in Mississippi.
 
If and when you do plant corn you might be able to keep the hogs occupied by baiting them away from your plot. I know guys who do that plant commercial corn crops but they always have last years leftovers to bait with. I only tried it the one time and it wasn’t important enough to me to have the corn, I just went with Frigid Forage Plot Screen. That worked really well until some thunderstorms with strong winds knocked a lot of it over, the hogs discovered the seed heads and, as they say, the rest is history.
 
If you have hogs, they might root the corn up and eat it the very day you plant it. I planted a few rows once just for the screening and maybe some actual ears for a bonus, the first night hogs ate every bit of it.
We don't have hogs here...and we don't want them! I forgot about the impact the hogs could have as well.
 
Thanks, all good points. My long term plan for the field is to convert about half to oaks and leave the other half to plant corn and beans properly. I just need to get some cover on it in the meantime. Hogs are a concern although there is a lot of corn planted in the area already and I have not heard of a lot of issues. I like the idea of some alternative annuals like Egyptian wheat, sorghum sudan, sunflowers, and blends but the seed cost is more per acre than corn (we can get RR corn here for $25 a bag.) and don't they have high nitrogen requirements also? Any chance some of those might produce good standing height in the winter without a lot of fertilize cost?

Sunn Hemp does great on poor soil with minimal fertilizer in alabama but they don't allow us to plant it in Mississippi.
Any sort of "grass" (corn included) will do far better with some nitrogen.....it's just how it works.
Rocks make up 70 % around here. I can tell you a lot about rocks:D
Rocks?!?.....you know an old fashioned glacier can fix that....that is what happened to mine....so I am told! It turned the "rocks" into "soil"......flattens things out real well also...but that all happened before I bought the place!!!!:D
 
My father and I planted Browntop Millet (and other stuff Red Clover, Buckwheat - aka stuff deer would eat) in the Ozarks a couple of years ago to have something growing in the summertime when we just started food plots. We did minimum fertilization, and the browntop millet reached chest high on my dad and I (I'm 5'9" and he is 5'8"). We had deer beds all over our food plots, along with finding a fawn in one while checking cameras. The millet was still standing though dried out when we went to plant our fall food plots, so i agree with the posters above on going that route.

Jeff H - 70% rocks, hahahaha, i love rocks in our plots, keeps my dad from tilling the ground into a fine powder. break one tine on a rented tiller, and he starts seeing the light on no-till.
 
Since the OP included wanting cheap seed , here’s certainly an option. Cheap seed of fall planted WR the following summer in first couple pics head high always full of beds well into July. Last pic of managed fallow field of food and bedding lasting thru hunting season. Latter being free seed from nature and minimal sweat. Sure easier and cheaper than corn.

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