The Year of The Oaks

Dr. Wood’s property is in southern Missouri in the Ozark’s. He has an oak dominated landscape and many of those are (were) closed canopy post oak and other scraggly species. In his case, hard cuts and burning seem like a reasonable solution. I find most of his recommendations are consistent with those on this forum.

Native-How big is your planting? I have a ~2 acre ride top adjacent to a neighbors cattle pasture. It’s too steep for a food plot and I’ve been brainstorming on how to make it more attractive to turkeys, they frequent that area mainly because of the pasture. What are you thoughts on burning with a pretty high return interval and trying to maintain an open early succession with fire tolerant oak species?


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@dogghr random clusters and planting some oaks may serve you better for meeting your double goal of deer and turkeys?
 
Can you recommend a good place to buy Alleghany Chinkapin?

I hear what you’re saying about getting it too thick. I guess it will larger depend on that specific areas response to fire.

A lot of our property has been logged. The thick young forest provides good deer cover but we do have quite a few areas that are too thick fir turkeys most of the year. Oaks are definitely a missing component for preferred winter habitat.


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Superior Trees in Lee Florida

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Q michauxii, swamp chestnut oak, regrew 18 inches from root in a tube this year. It is planted in a brush mat from logging that may help with weeds, although there are lots in the pic. Another michauxii near it was more in the brush and did the same untubed. Other plantings seem to do well in brush mats, too. Something to consider. They attract rodents, however.

I seeded several 100 michauxii way north of their native range and to my surprise have been some of the best performaers of the 15 oak species I planted. Great trees.
 
Swamp Chestnut Oak has grown taller for me than any of the others in the White Oak Family. However, Overcup Oak (Quercus lyrata) has grown bigger at the base, and at places where it was able to spread out, it has grown wider.

The picture below is going to shock some of you, but this is a 17 year old Q lyrata that I found in the planting recently. The bar on that chainsaw is a 16 inch bar. This is the biggest one I have found, but many others are not far behind it.

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Since I have brought up Overcup Oak and shocked you guys, I should probably go ahead and talk about it next. Stay tuned and we will cover it soon.
 
Wow that is impressive. You might mention the benefits of 20ft of alluvial soils!! I’m not sure I’m envious or jealous. Cool stuff.


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Swamp Chestnut Oak has grown taller for me than any of the others in the White Oak Family. However, Overcup Oak (Quercus lyrata) has grown bigger at the base, and at places where it was able to spread out, it has grown wider.

The picture below is going to shock some of you, but this is a 17 year old Q lyrata that I found in the planting recently. The bar on that chainsaw is a 16 inch bar. This is the biggest one I have found, but many others are not far behind it.

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chainsaw idling beside this fine tree? obviously you are planning to cut it down and make furniture...
 
I really like the looks of that tree! We have a few low, wet areas on the Massey, I might get a few of those in the future for those spots. This year we are trying some sawtooths in one of those areas, so we’ll see how they hold up. It might be too wet for them. Would you be willing to let some acorns go from one of those?


I hunted a property many years ago that had sawtooths on it and they were rather large. There were water lines about 6 feet up the truck where they flooded the area for duck hunting. I don’t know exactly how long they left it flooded, but the trees were doing great and had large acorns on it.


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Excellent Topic for a Thread and great timing as I cut, cut for my food plots and bedding. Would like to keep a few nice oaks.

I hope you enjoy tagging along Travis. I’ve been thinking about oaks so much lately, It feels like I have acorns for brains. :)

One thing to keep in mind is that the best looking trees may not be the best acorn producing trees. But, if you see an outstanding crop on any given tree, there is a good chance that tree will continue to be a great producer until it gets past its prime bearing years.
 
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Seeing much oak blight or gypsy moth damage Native?? If so, which oaks affected most? I see the blight worse on the WO but supposedly its worse for the others. Moths have been a problem for years with the state spraying treatment.
 
Seeing much oak blight or gypsy moth damage Native?? If so, which oaks affected most? I see the blight worse on the WO but supposedly its worse for the others. Moths have been a problem for years with the state spraying treatment.

dogghr, I’m not seeing either one on my place. I do recall a few years ago seeing some big mature red oaks die but never really looked into it. Everything in the planting looks well so far.
 
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