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Native Hunter

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Several of those look more like cat markings than bucks. Sure you don't have a herd of cats running those hills?
 
Native, you certainly have some destructive bucks there. Are any of those gouges on your fruit trees ?
 
Native, you certainly have some destructive bucks there. Are any of those gouges on your fruit trees ?

No, I have cages around all of my fruit trees. If it wasn't for that, they would be torn all to pieces. But I have had bucks to accidentally hang into a cage, and the results were not pretty. The tree would be skinned up, and the cage laying about 50 feet away.

Most of those trees are white pine. Pine and cedar seem to be a primary target, but any conifer will get hit, including spruce and hemlock.

It was a miracle that I was ever able to establish any pines. The briers that grew up around them helped some, and back in those days there were not many deer around. Times have changed.
 
They be hard on white pines. You should get some depredation tags for big antlers on your tree farm. In Michigan I had 100 deer/1/8 sq mile and I was able to grow pines by just smearing some irish spring on the trunks. In Iowa with far fewer deer, bucks would destroy any coniferous plant regardless of soap. Bucks just didn't care if they smelled as fresh as an irish spring. However, I found that bucks would not destroy trees that had a plastic grocery bag tied around the trunk. While a bit unsightly and a pain to tie on and then remove seasonally, nothing worked better short of a cattle panel wrapped and staked around every tree. Of course, I know that you planted the trees for the deer, just saying. That is an impressive collection of rubs.

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They be hard on white pines. You should get some depredation tags for big antlers on your tree farm. In Michigan I had 100 deer/1/8 sq mile and I was able to grow pines by just smearing some irish spring on the trunks. In Iowa with far fewer deer, bucks would destroy any coniferous plant regardless of soap. Bucks just didn't care if they smelled as fresh as an irish spring. However, I found that bucks would not destroy trees that had a plastic grocery bag tied around the trunk. While a bit unsightly and a pain to tie on and then remove seasonally, nothing worked better short of a cattle panel wrapped and staked around every tree. Of course, I know that you planted the trees for the deer, just saying. That is an impressive collection of rubs.

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Thanks G. I've also noticed that if a tree is in a fence row that I don't have to keep a cage on it. If it is a small tree, it will need a cage to keep it from getting the top eaten, but once it gets big, the cage can be removed and they won't rub it.
 
Thanks G. I've also noticed that if a tree is in a fence row that I don't have to keep a cage on it. If it is a small tree, it will need a cage to keep it from getting the top eaten, but once it gets big, the cage can be removed and they won't rub it.
Interesting observation. I wonder why?
 
Interesting observation. I wonder why?

I think when they start to rub that their antlers hit the fence and that deters them.

Also, the trees that are most likely to get hit are the ones that stand out in the open with not much vegetation around them. I've had chestnut trees that I never cleaned out around that never got hit. However, when I would open up the area, the trees would get hit hard. I've now learned to cage anything that I clean out around that I care about.

I've noticed that blackberry briers will especially deter a buck from rubbing a tree. When I first did my tree planting, the briers were the only thing that saved several trees. However, you must keep the top open for a few years for the trees to get their heads above the briers, or the briers will tangle them and kill them. Once the tops get above the briers, everything is good.

I've set over 8,000 trees in recent years. I'm starting to lean a few things through the school of hard knocks. I can now look at at tree considering its type, location and surroundings and be almost certain whether or not it will get hit.
 
Impressive. Odd how each land sometimes only a county away will have a different preference on tree rubbed. Typically here it will be choice of Dogwood, Cherry , or pine depending on location. I assume the more fragrant trees are preferred.


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Impressive. Odd how each land sometimes only a county away will have a different preference on tree rubbed. Typically here it will be choice of Dogwood, Cherry , or pine depending on location. I assume the more fragrant trees are preferred.


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And it is extremely uncommon to see a Sweet Gum touched.
 
Saw the title and thought, “dang he caught a liberal”. Talk about disappointing.
Them Kentucks are tough people. Just watched program of the attack on Boonesboro during the revolution during Daniels time. They survived 11 days of being attacked by the English backed Shawnee that outnumbered them 5 to one. Don't mess with Native, he's got that Caneland blood!!!
 
Saw the title and thought, “dang he caught a liberal”. Talk about disappointing.
I don't know if I strictly qualify as a liberal, but I work in academia and live in NY. And after the year we've had, I might just line up and close my eyes lol.
 
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