Triple C
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Tommy...We’re prolly at the tipping point. Honestly, no browse line anywhere. 160 acres of thinned pines with more browse than they can keep up with along with mature oaks dropping acorns. But...time to reduce doe numbers.
Doe factory???
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Chainsaw
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Cameras have shown that there are roughly thirty different bucks larger than spikes that spend at least part of their daytime here during November; for some reason until then seeing a buck out of hundreds of deer sightings is extremely rare here. They seem to be summering elsewhere. I wouldn’t be too alarmed by that if that is the case.
If it happens here in November or they are nocturnal in November though then they must know they are being hunted and that is on us. Does seem to tolerate a lot more human scent than the bucks do and more so when the population is high and food is more scarce.
If it happens here in November or they are nocturnal in November though then they must know they are being hunted and that is on us. Does seem to tolerate a lot more human scent than the bucks do and more so when the population is high and food is more scarce.
dogghr
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Maybe you just spending too much time building that new house!!! Especially with me packed and all ready to move in soon!!!
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Cap'n
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The property across from me, 2800 acres is managed by a DMAP program. The State wildlife biologists decide what the harvest will be. This year they are supposed to kill 70 does and can take up to 9 bucks. Last year they killed 60.does and took 6 bucks. All deer over the normal limit are donated to a church kitchen.They have been doing this for 10 years, It works. Every year I have a chance to take a 3.5-4.5 yr old buck on my place and of course I take as many does as I can.
But i have hunted land that needed every doe they had. This place just happens to be a doe factory that if left un-managed would decline rapidly.
But i have hunted land that needed every doe they had. This place just happens to be a doe factory that if left un-managed would decline rapidly.
George
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Shooting the wrong does will exacerbate the perceived problem.
Loading up with shooters won't help seeing bucks.
As long as the deer population isn't detrimental to the environment it is a numbers game, the more deer, the more big bucks.
If you want to remove does you would be better served to have your Son remove a dozen non-dominant does.
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Loading up with shooters won't help seeing bucks.
As long as the deer population isn't detrimental to the environment it is a numbers game, the more deer, the more big bucks.
If you want to remove does you would be better served to have your Son remove a dozen non-dominant does.
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Triple C
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Dave - We've taken our share of nice bucks off the farm over the years. I mistakenly said we didn't take any bucks in 2019 but guess old-timer's disease is kicking in as we took 2 bucks last year. Since I hardly ran cameras this year my assumption is based on what I've seen during the summer and early archery season while hunting...more deer than I've ever seen this early in the season. I'm accustomed to food plots filling up in late season after mast crops and browse is limited but holy cow...mama deer n babies filling the plots up now across the property. Have no doubt we'll have bucks cruising in a couple more weeks. Last couple of years it's just mostly been myself and Brooks hunting and I'm mostly a weekend warrior slinging arrows out of a trad bow so you know I'm not gonna kill much. We just haven't taken enough doe off of the property over the years. What I didn't see this year was the large bachelor groups that we've become accustomed to over the years.
Yep! Decided to go ahead and finish the basement just in case you decide to head south.Maybe you just spending too much time building that new house!!! Especially with me packed and all ready to move in soon!!!
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Cap'n - That's bout 10 times the size of my farm. We're gonna do our best to take at least 10 doe from the farm this year. Firearms season opens Oct 17. First either-sex day is Oct 23. Stay tuned for an update after the weekend of Oct 23.
MarkDarvin
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I've not had much experience hunting an area with too many does. There were a few, but those places also had great bucks. Now I'm in an area that can be cleaned out quickly by a bad winter. There isn't a surplus of deer by any means, but string together a few mild winters, and we get a good huntable population.
I'd love to be able to take a second deer, but it's not in the cards now, and that's ok. There are plenty of areas where the state has issued unlimited tags, or essentially unlimited tags, that have achieved the goal of harsh deer reduction. Those places are no fun to hunt once they get there.
I'd love to be able to take a second deer, but it's not in the cards now, and that's ok. There are plenty of areas where the state has issued unlimited tags, or essentially unlimited tags, that have achieved the goal of harsh deer reduction. Those places are no fun to hunt once they get there.
KSQ2
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Just in the last two years have we begun to see an abundance of does; we had two horrible ehd years in a row back in '11 and '12. The result of that drastic population reduction for us, was bucks in the summer on the ag fields, but no bucks and very few deer at all in the fall and winter. It has taken years to recover. Bill Winke shares some very interesting opinions about the effects of a very large doe population in a couple of his videos having to do with the sale of his farm. I'd highly recommend watching for that reason and many more as well. I'll try to get a link posted.
Cap'n
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Great video. I like his content.
KSQ2
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THE LLC
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Our either-sex doesn’t open in Madison County until Oct 31.
Triple C
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Glad you posted. I mistakenly had either sex the prior weekend for Oglethorpe. Push herd reduction back to Oct 31.
lakngolf
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Just give everyone a Trad bow with a quiver full and let em flow a week early!
I have a degree in wildlife management and worked for the Feds in natural resources management for 34 years and have managed my own property for 20 years and am still learning. I have two properties, eight miles apart, and they manage nothing alike. That is what makes it so interesting - and frustrating.
I went over to our Home 30 today and made sure I had a stand setup for my grandson as youth rifle season starts in one week and we are going to give it a go for either doe or buck because there is an abundance of does there...if he gets a doe there and we aren’t seeing any bucks (my renter said they have seen none) then we are headed back over here to the Hollow for a buck...should be fun!
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