Establishing Durana clover plots

What are some recommendations for the companion/nurse crops ratios?

feel free to critic my plan, I will be applying:
5lbs/acre durana
70 lbs/acre Oats
10 lbs/acre crimson clover.

I am trying to keep it simple and give the durana the best conditions to get established in its first year.

I can't speak to your area as much, but here i would replace the oats with Rye for a better allelopathic impact.

Your amounts are close but as DRandall mentioned I'd replace oats with rye and back it off to 50 lbs/ac. I have established lots of durana plots in northeast Georgia with that and most are over 6 years old now.

I’m in the same boat with trying to establish a Duran plot.
As others suggested winter rye is a better option. I seeded 5# medium red clover too vs crimson but crimson may be a good option too. Now we need rain

As has been mentioned above RYE grain. It will protect that clover for you...I have established a lot of Durana like this...

Yep be sure it is rye GRAIN. Not rye GRASS.

Thanks for the input. I always appreciate the collective wisdom of this group.

Agree with others on using rye grain. A little sage wisdom from a guy that got lazy this year...When you see crab grass in early June of next year be sure and treat it with Clethodim or a light dose of gly. I got lazy this year and just mowed. Grass eventually won the battle so much so that too many of my prize clover plots are going to have to be redone this fall. A great perennial clover plot is expensive to create and must be maintained if you expect to get a decent number of years out of it. Disappointed in myself that I didn't treat the grass issue as I should have. Some areas the clover is still kicking and I know it will come back in a month or so when the weather cools. But a few areas just got destroyed by the grass.

One last thought...I always fertilized with 19-19-19 following the planting of my fall plots cause 19-19-19 is what we use on the fall plots. I'm sure the extra nitrogen applied to the clover only encouraged the grass to go into overdrive. This fall the clover will get 0-20-20.

Thx Triple C.....trouble I've had is that the winter grains are just ending their life and beginning to melt away at that time....making herbicide application quite difficult. The young summer grasses are #1 not even visable and #2 hard to physically spray.

David said:

Thx Triple C.....trouble I've had is that the winter grains are just ending their life and beginning to melt away at that time....making herbicide application quite difficult. The young summer grasses are #1 not even visable and #2 hard to physically spray.

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If you have the ability to spray where you have at least 3 months you can wait before planting again, a once yearly application of Thunder can be used to keep a perennial clover plot going for a long time. It has residuals though, so you need to wait at least 3 months before seeding in grains again.

Can Thunder or other herbicides be used effectively with a weed wipe type applicator to minimize?

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Can Thunder or other herbicides be used effectively with a weed wipe type applicator to minimize?

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I would assume no, since they have residuals that work in the soils as well as when applied directly to the plant.

Glysophate can work though, depending on what you are trying to kill.