Kiss the ground documentary: Anyone see it?

MarkDarvin

MarkDarvin

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If you hadn't cancelled your netflix over the cuties debacle, have you seen this movie? I just started it. Woody Harrelson narrates it, and Ray Archuletta is featured right outta the chute.

No verdict yet. Like I said, just starting it here...
 
Haven't heard of it, but it sounds like something I would like.

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I added it to my list this last week. Going to check it out. Looks interesting see how it goes


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catscratch said:
Haven't heard of it, but it sounds like something I would like.

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Well, I just finished it. It starts out well with a positive message of what can be done with a little understanding of science. Then about 1/3 of the way into it, they veer into the doom of modern ag, then the big tear jerker and call for hope at the end. It led me to this conclusion...

The movement is too big and too complex to be led by any one person. It's poisoned by opportunists (communists, eugenicists, politicians, celebrities, short cutters) and the uneducated. It's a freight train running wide open with no conductor.

Wasn't too long ago, Al Gore told us we had to eliminate all animals. The vegans wanna touch off another dust bowl and kill all the wildlife. The composters sequester no carbon whatsoever. All lack honesty or understanding, or both.
 
I saw it just a week ago. If you have the chance it's worth the watch. I feel they had some fair points....but it's not as easy as they make it sound. I feel there are things we can do to help the situation. However.....how do you stop the destruction/loss of habitat in South America and Africa and they desire to develop as nations? We did the same thing a few 100 years ago.....when we cut down the forests and fenced off and plowed under the prairie.
 
j-bird said:
I saw it just a week ago. If you have the chance it's worth the watch. I feel they had some fair points....but it's not as easy as they make it sound. I feel there are things we can do to help the situation. However.....how do you stop the destruction/loss of habitat in South America and Africa and they desire to develop as nations? We did the same thing a few 100 years ago.....when we cut down the forests and fenced off and plowed under the prairie.
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It would stop in a heartbeat if we quit paying them to do it. Grow the food here and quit importing stuff from there, and there is nobody to write the checks for the dozers. This planet could grow 20 times the amount of food we have now if we needed it, the market supported it, and the government allowed it. If potatoes or tomatoes went to $20/lb, we could up global output by 5x without displacing 1 acre of traditional farm or pasture land.
 
I just read a scary article (that I'm now quoting) about how all the biggest global players are planning the Great Re-set (complete with land grab and animal product imitation game) in which globalization is the key, and climate change and ‘sustainability’ — now cleverly linked to pandemic fears and climate change — will turn the lock.
This article details how some of the world's biggest corporations like MasterCard, Walmart, Amazon, Unilever, Danone, and Starbucks are pushing the Net Zero Initiative movement at the United Nations Biodiversity Summit that's planning to adopt targets of the World Wildlife Fund (WWF) to “restore” (re-wild) 30% of the earth’s land as Protected Areas by 2030 and 50% by 2050 (take farmland out of production by paying off landowners).
Also, these corporations are planning a public re-education initiative to persuade people to stop eating meat and dairy and eat rice and beans. The Great Re-set, according to Survival International, “will be the biggest land grab in world history and will reduce hundreds of millions of people to landless poverty.”

https://agmoos.com/2020/09/27/dairy...on-table-where-big-players-plan-great-re-set/
 
Mennoniteman said:
I just read a scary article (that I'm now quoting) about how all the biggest global players are planning the Great Re-set (complete with land grab and animal product imitation game) in which globalization is the key, and climate change and ‘sustainability’ — now cleverly linked to pandemic fears and climate change — will turn the lock.
This article details how some of the world's biggest corporations like MasterCard, Walmart, Amazon, Unilever, Danone, and Starbucks are pushing the Net Zero Initiative movement at the United Nations Biodiversity Summit that's planning to adopt targets of the World Wildlife Fund (WWF) to “restore” (re-wild) 30% of the earth’s land as Protected Areas by 2030 and 50% by 2050 (take farmland out of production by paying off landowners).
Also, these corporations are planning a public re-education initiative to persuade people to stop eating meat and dairy and eat rice and beans. The Great Re-set, according to Survival International, “will be the biggest land grab in world history and will reduce hundreds of millions of people to landless poverty.”

https://agmoos.com/2020/09/27/dairy...on-table-where-big-players-plan-great-re-set/
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Those are the hijackers.
 
When the “Great Reset” happens I will have already been reduced to fertilizer, but I have a stinking suspicion that befoe that happens there will be the “Great Revolution”. We ain’t as stupid as some would think. At least I hope not.
 
Mennoniteman said:
Sorry, didn't mean to hijack your thread. The content seemed on topic.
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No, not you. I'm talking the resetters. Other than a few farmers and Ray, the people at the podiums don't give shit one about food, nutrition, and the environment. They are @$$ suckers there trying to get rich, or famous, or carry out their wish to depopulate the earth.
 
Mennoniteman hit the nail on the head and drove it with one whack! We aren't going to stop the train the only way we are going to slow the train is to pass down our ways to the younger generation. I just bought another freezer(that's full already) for my 100% organic wild game meat. With a 5 yo future killer in our household we are going to get years of service out of it.
We are leaving our suburban home soon for a rural setting of small town USA, where he can be involved with 4h and ffa. Let the school system teach them 4+4 I'll teach him the history that is lacking in school. You don't teach conservative you raise them.
 
I found it interesting that the big money push for the next green energy means cutting down forests to burn instead of gas.

I also found it interesting that while Al Gore was on his big save the world push he was invested in sugar cane that was replacing the Amazon forest.

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George said:
I also found it interesting that while Al Gore was on his big save the world push he was invested in sugar cane that was replacing the Amazon forest.

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Libs talk a good game, and the ignorant listen and agree, but they (libs) are duplicitous and there’s usually money/power at the end of their particular rainbow. Their followers hope some of the crumbs will filter down to them.
 
Drycreek said:
Libs talk a good game, and the ignorant listen and agree, but they (libs) are duplicitous and there’s usually money/power at the end of their particular rainbow. Their followers hope some of the crumbs will filter down to them.
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Huge money and companies. I think that we already answered the question but how does the Sierra Club sign up up for such a plan of mass deforestation?

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George said:
I found it interesting that the big money push for the next green energy means cutting down forests to burn instead of gas.

I also found it interesting that while Al Gore was on his big save the world push he was invested in sugar cane that was replacing the Amazon forest.

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That new bio fuel is covered extensively in the documentary “planet of the humans”. They hammered big corporation “green energy” but the real bottom line is much scarier. The global population is well on its way to being unsustainable.


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weekender21 said:
That new bio fuel is covered extensively in the documentary “planet of the humans”. They hammered big corporation “green energy” but the real bottom line is much scarier. The global population is well on its way to being unsustainable.


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Wait, Do you actually believe that last sentence?


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weekender21 said:
That new bio fuel is covered extensively in the documentary “planet of the humans”. They hammered big corporation “green energy” but the real bottom line is much scarier. The global population is well on its way to being unsustainable.


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my plan for domestic population control...offer every male at 18 years old somewhere around $3000 to have a vasectomy. Those who are short sighted or see that as a lot of money, take it, therefore reducing the chances of children born to children. The other percentage that doesn’t take it probably isn’t dumb enough to a have a kid too young anyway and at a minimum would probably take care of it and likely not pop out a liter. The humane side would also allow those who took the money to one day reverse the procedure if they ever wanted to start a family once they were old enough, smart enough, and/or financially responsible enough.
 
George said:
Huge money and companies. I think that we already answered the question but how does the Sierra Club sign up up for such a plan of mass deforestation?

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Any large do-good organization is there for the same thing.

Dirty money

Jobs for your buddies

Make sure they never achieve their goals

They are there to do just enough to keep a rival organization that demands real outcomes from springing up. Like QDMA, NDA, DU, PF, American Diabetes Association, American Heart Association, and on and on and on. They are also there to hand out indulgences to the very interests they are supposed to be holding accountable.
 
MarkDarvin said:
If potatoes or tomatoes went to $20/lb, we could up global output by 5x without displacing 1 acre of traditional farm or pasture land.
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Mark, how is this possible? Where does this stat come from? And is it only tomatoes and potatoes we can do this with? Are you talking hydrophonics or some other way?

Thanks

Willy
 
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